For more than a decade dancers Analía Vega and Marcelo Varela have moved with several firm convictions but also with an open mind. They are currently teaching at the Escuela Argentina de Tango, where lately they offered seminars on musicality and each Wednesday they give classes in Dandy, just before the milonga Shusheta, that they co-organize. Teaching moves them so much that during the interview Analía will be touched to the point of tears. At the moment of this chat, they were preparing to travel through Switzerland, Poland, Italy and Germany during 45 days in one of the two international tours that they have planned for this year.
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How did you arrive to tango?
AV: I began singing it in the choir of my school. I also had danced, but not tango. Later, upon finishing high school, I continued with voice lessons and tango appeared in my life as a sort of need. It was the first activity that truly seduced me.
MV: I did not arrive to tango, tango arrived to me. My parents took me to dance folklore since I was 6 years old. I passed through infinity of teachers until my dad found the advertisement of Ernesto Carmona, who was our master. Shortly afterwards I put folklore aside because I felt a lot more passionately about tango. Analía and I met at Carmona’s classes.
How long have you danced together professionally?
MV: Some 10 years.
What changed in tango since then?
AV: The number of people that dance it grew a lot. Before they looked at you as if you were weird and now everyone knows someone who dances it.
MV: When I began I found almost exclusively older people and today there are many young people.
I imagine that in those times it was a lot more difficult to live off of tango.
MV: I believe exactly the opposite. What I noticed in the studio of Carmona was that there always were many people. There were few teachers identifiable as role models. Today there are so many people teaching that there is an imbalance. In fact you listen a lot to "there are more teachers than students".
Tango is very special. Is also a very fertile field for arguments.
AV: During a seminar for teachers that we gave recently we confirmed that tango does not have one truth. There are as many tangos as people. Each person wants to defend and highlight what he thinks.
MV: Also I think that the polemic happens more for a matter of personal pride than because of different ideas. Under all that noise and foot stomping that raises so much dust, what remains is not so different. We all mean more or less the same thing. But there is the desire to show who has more experience or more hours, as if these proved quality.
How is it to be both dance and life partners?
AV: That is the million-dollar question! I believe that it helped us a lot to learn with the same teacher because we share the same work technique and way of thinking. And later, we talked a lot! At the beginning it was difficult to come to an agreement but now we look at each other and we already know what the other is going to say. At the same time, we are very respectful of our different points of view.
MV: Another point in favor is that we don’t keep anything bottled up, then there are no grudges. If we are in a class, I say something and she thinks differently, she says so. It is good for the students to receive different visions. We do not like to underestimate each other.
AV: On the other hand, as we share many tasks, it is healthy to give each other personal spaces. At times I go alone to take classes of contemporary, or jazz dance or to see my family or a friend that has nothing to do with tango. He also at times needs to be alone with the computer and drinking his mate, for example. Each couple finds their own formula because there is no prescription.
What do you enjoy more: social dancing or exhibitions?
AV: Lately, the milonga is an encounter with friends. At times, being tired, I prefer to go to dance a divine tanda instead of dancing the whole night. Also it is nice to be surprised by a new embrace. Besides, I like to observe and to breathe the atmosphere of the milonga a lot. We generally enjoy exhibitions very much and other times it is calmer, it depends on many things.
MV: Whether I want to go to a milonga depends on the vibe of the day. Also at times it is good to have a drink and to chat with friends about tango and not to dance.
What do you mean with “to chat about tango”?
MV: To speak a little bit about everything: music, the women, of how so-and-so dances. I am only interested in talking about work if it is to share methodologies and to investigate. We both like to research a lot.
AV: But we try to protect the milonga. We do not walk around handing out cards during the dance. It seems to us that it is not ethical to walk around fishing for students or clients because the space is devalued.
What do you like to research?
MV: Many things. Lately we are obsessed with the music. It is something that fascinates us. We have many friends that are musicians and we speak to them to learn more about musical theory.
AV: Recently we were teaching musicality and musical interpretation seminars. I believe that is because we both feel that the music stimulates us a lot. We are interested in knowing the musical language better and, on the other hand, to work with the expression of movement that it suggests to us upon listening to it. Tango has such a strong technique that at times it can limit or annul that expression. We also work on technique, but without forgetting why do I dance tango, what happens to me when I embrace someone, what does the music I am listening to suggest to me.
MV:Many people are used to practicing with background music. That is something that we never permit. In our class when we put music on it is to dance to it. And if we are practicing a step or polishing some technical question, we do not play music because you run the risk that the music becomes barely a buzz.
Why do you teach?
MV: When I finished elementary school and showed more interest in dancing that in studying, my parents found a very good formula: the National School of Dance, where I could not dance if I did not go to high school. From there I graduated as a teacher of folk dances. Besides, in the last year, I decided to give classes in a cultural center as practice. There I began to feel great happiness while working for the people. The possibility to communicate with the student fascinates me, to help to discover, to see the progress of the people, who at the same time teach me things… At times we argue, because it is hard for me to finish the class on schedule. I lose all notion of time.
AV: For me it is also a pleasure. To accompany them in that process of discovery or to find together the road to understanding something is a beautiful adventure. When the people place confidence in us it is also a great responsibility. One wants to give that back and an emotional relation happens. At times I finish a class and I say: “Ay, I am in love!” I refer to the situation, don’t I?
Yes, it is a very nice place that of the teacher, a kind of guru placed there to give.
AV: I learned a lot form Marcelo. He is a great teacher. (She cries with emotion).
MV: When we began to teach together I was used to teaching alone. It was very difficult to teach with her, but she won her space. Something that describes what we are in life is the intention to listen to the other, to know what is going on with the other here and now.
AV: I would like to add also that Graciela González was always very generous with us. There are few teachers and she respected us and listened to us in spite of not been originally our teacher. That is not very common in tango.
In the exhibitions that you give, one can see many elements from tango salón, but also of milonguero, of what is called new tango and of stage resources. You seem to be quite eclectic.
MV: Many times people ask us: "What style do you dance?" The truth is that we do not have a style. We dance tango, and all that is tango. Therefore our publicity says “Style tango”. Besides, when we see someone dance we do not say "what good style he has!" We like to see them dance, how do they enjoy it, how they communicate, what are they saying, what are they telling us. Technique is something very good, but once you have achieved it, you break it. If one adheres to the technique, the development of the dance is blocked. It is convenient to leave the plot and to return to it if it is necessary, but as a reference.
What kind of milonga is Shusheta?
AV: For me it is like the living room of my house. There is a mix of people of different ages and nationalities. I think it is a place where there is a lot of respect and where we try to make everyone feel comfortable and have a good time. The room is beautiful. These characteristics have made it a very interesting alternative for the past 7 years. Besides, we organize it with milongueros that we have known for a long time: Gloria and El Tranquilo.
What projects do you have?
AV: Continuing with the classes that we have and trying to spend a little bit more time in Buenos Aires, because we travel a lot and time flies. Also we would like to have our own space to practice and to work with students and long time friends. In addition, we are speaking with an actress to prepare a work that we would like to present in the next Festival Cambalache.
MV: I believe a lot in destiny and in intuition. Dreams, as for example that of our own studio, do not keep us awake at night. Desperate ambition often leads to not paying attention to what means you use and not to enjoy the road you travel or to waste some things that you already have. I think that the opportunities arrive for those who do things.